New family car

The time has come to look for a new car. I was out with Katja running some errands. We passed by this truck which of her own volition she pointed out to me. She said as we walked by:” Big truck”. My thought is that this might be a candidate for a new family car. It can fit a 4′ x 8′ sheet of plywood and a car seat in the back seat. Seems to fit our requirements.

On using craigslist – rude or not

Craigslist is is like the classifieds in the news papper, but for free.

Becky and I have been looking for a car for a few weeks, we have been to a dealer and we have been looking online.

We want something with:

  • comfortable seats
  • cruise control
  • better than 30 mpg
  • a roof rack
  • a place for a hitch
  • a little bit on the heavy side so that it has some good handling

We are thinking that something like a Cross-over or a smaller SUV might work… We would have enjoyed the 2010 Hyundai Santa Fe, but the head rests were a pain.

I sold my car (Black Honda Accord) a few months back.

Hugh's Honda Front

Hugh's Honda Front

When I did, I took the car to a shop and the purchaser paid for an inspection on the car. I let them take it out for a test drive; made the VIN number available to the potential purchasers. (And the final purchaser was not first inquirer. I went through the process with one other person before them.) I would expect someone who is selling their car to show me the same courtesy. I as a buyer do not know how many hits have been on that particular listing.

Following some good sound financial management principles one should not spend before they know what they are getting. And the purchaser should not have to pay for the car before they test drive it.

If one is selling a car, as a buyer I expect to be able to test drive the car, research the car on CarFax, and take it to a shop and get a second opinion on the condition of the car. Additionally, when I buy a car, private party, I expect that any maintenance records would be turned over at the time of purchase as well.

With craigslist there must be a lot of very impolite people who try and take advantage of sellers. 2/3rds of the interactions I have had with people on the north side of Dallas, the sellers have been very distrusting of the buyers. This could be a result of the difference in economic zones between North and South Dallas, this could also just be some rude people selling items in North Dallas.

As Becky and I were looking on craigslist we found this listing: So, I contacted the guy at Becky’s request. The following conversation ensued.Special thanks to Nicolas Gallagher for the CSS for the speech bubbles. And to DiskAid for the ability to pull text messages off the iPhone.

Mazda3 listing on craigslist

I called him and talked to him a bit about the car and asked for him to text me the vin number. (My texts are shown in blue and his in orange.)

Received on 11/15/2011 20:05:00



2 things: 1.Can you double check the vin you sent me. I think there is an error in it. 2. When might be a good time to look at the car?

I dont save outgoing txts whats issue? i will meet when u are ready to buy netime (must bring money if u wanna drive though) too many tire kickers :)

The vin you sent was 18 digits and vins are, from what I can tell supposed to be 17. Here is what you sent me Jm1bk1436411655841


—– Next Day
Received on 11/16/2011 13:31:06

U decide if you want the mazda

I did not decide if want the Mazda. I did decide that I want to look at it and sit I the seats and test drive it. If I still want it at that point, and the value to cost ratio is still in my favor. I would choose to do business with you. You sound like you know cars. I don’t buy things to see if I like them. I know I like them. Then I buy them. I also sleep on financial decisions. I don’t rush. Still interested in selling me your car?

In ur favor?

If I am still convinced, that the price fits the goods. Remember I have not even seen the car yet.

Hah i know what the rest are going for mines hands down best buy on the market and i know none drive like this one…. ive had four of these

I am interested in touching the car. I believe you. Do you do your own work or have someone else do it?

I had a shop do it and i can show it but seems like id be wasting my time showing a car to someone who says flat out im not buying it but want to see it

I did not say I am not buying it. If I have to drive. 30 min. One way. Your time is not the only one waisted.

No no no just saying like 2 out of 100 ppl look at a car and come back later to buy it nobody thinks about a purchase while they sleep..thats just an excuse of w [sic]

If u like a car pull the trigger …. tell ya what ill show it any time but i hate when ppl say they want to thnk abou it that really mns no.

So if u like it think about what its worth before coming so u can make a decision then and there and wont have to say “thnk bout it” u can just say yes or no :)

Whats ur email ill send u ton of pics so u can see it

Ok. That request makes sense. Hugh[at]

Needless to say, we did not buy the car.


Who would have thunk I that I would do a post on cars? Mostly, I avoid car discussions. I have avoided these kinds of discussions since high-school, when all my friends raved about NASCAR and North American muscle cars, I have regularly reminded them that the best cars in the world prove their excellence in a race by negotiating turns in multiple directions, as well as negotiating changes in track elevation. By-the-way, RACECAR is a palindrome.

This posture has landed me quite a bit of criticism over the years. Aside from this, my practical side has suggested that a good car is one that allows one to get from ‘point A’ to ‘point B’.

My first car was a Renault, followed by a 1983 Honda Prelude, which in turn was followed by 1996 Honda Accord LX. I currently drive a 2005 Kia Spectra, which my wife bought before we were married.


1982 Renault - Mine was all light blue with a grey interior.

Honda Prelude

1982 Honda Prelude - Mine was this exact color scheme.

1996 Honda Accord LX

2005 Kia Spectra

Driving from 2007 through 2011

But recently Becky and I have been looking at cars, not to buy one, just to look at them… and so I have been looking at some cars with more of an artistic eye rather than a functional or economical (esp. fuel efficiency) eye.

Several cars have caught my eye. I have long been a fan of the Porsche 911 and Porsche Boxter. But here are some other cars that look rather appealing. Most of these cars I have never even ridden in. Concerning color, I really like yellow. However, Bi-tonal color schemes like is common with the Toyota FJ and the Mini Cooper are also really cool. Of course Blue and white, Blue and golden (yellow), or Black and White all go nicely together.

Porsche Boxter

Porsche Boxster

Mini Cooper

The Union Jack looks really cool on either the roof or the hood of this car. But being that my family color is blue, I thought that perhaps a Scottish flag might fit better.

Scottish Flag

Dodge Challenger

I always find the Dodge Challenger an agressive and smart looking car.

Toyota FJ

Mazda Protege P5

Subaru Baja

The Subaru Baja is also a nice car.